Papers of John Adams, volume 13

To Francis Dana, 13 May 1782 JA Dana, Francis To Francis Dana, 13 May 1782 Adams, John Dana, Francis
To Francis Dana
Hague, Hotel des Etats Unis de L' Amerique, May 13. 1782 My dear Friend

Yours of April 12/231 is just come to hand: Last night, for the first time, I Slept in this House, and I hope that the Air of the Hague will have a good Effect upon my Health, otherwise I must embark for the blue Hills.2

The Independance of America, has been acknowledged by this Republick, with a Solemnity and Unanimity, which has made it, in a peculiar Sense the National Act. The Publication of the Memorial of the 19 of April 1781,3 Sett all the Writers of Gazettes and Pamphlets to work to propagate and illustrate the Hints thrown out by it, so that in the Course of a years time, the People were universally convincd and their Zeal was animated, to such a Degree, that When the Plott came to its unravelling, they threw out Testimonies and Arguments in their Requetes which must do great service to the American Cause. The Ennemy have perceived this, and have done all they could, to prevent an Extensive Publication of them.

Pray let me know what Gazettes or periodical Papers are published with you and in what Languages, and whether there is any Indulgence to the Press with you.

I have laid before their H. M. a Plan of a Treaty, which I hear no objection to, and am told by the grand Pensionary will be settled in about 2 Weeks. The other matter is not yet Stirred. I shall wait for the advice of allies in this Case, although I ventured to go against it, in the former.4

Once in my Life, the Words Piddling &c cost me, very dear:5 but I Shall never get them out of my Head: I shall be plagued with Piddling Politicians as long as I live: at least, untill I retire from the Political Career to the blue Hills. There are at this Moment So many Politicians piddling about Peace, general, and Seperate, that I am Sick to death of it. Why is there not one Soul in Europe, capable of Seeing the plainest Thing in the World. Any one of the neutral Powers, Saying to the Rest,


America is one of us, and We will all Share in her Commerce. Let us all as one declare it.

These Words once pronounced, Peace is made, or at least Soon and easily made. Without it all may nibble and piddle and dribble and fribble: waste a long time, immense Treasures and much human Blood. And they must come to it at last.

The new British Ministers blunder at first Setting out. They had but one System to choose, which could succeed and that they have missed.

They must come to it, finally: but it will be after an opposition Shall be formed and cemented, which will give them much trouble and make them unpopular.

No News from America, a long time, except of the Safe Arrival of my dear Charles.

RC (MHi: Dana Family Papers); endorsed: “Mr. Adams's Letter Dated May 13th. 1782. Recd. Aug: 24th. OS.”


vol. 12:455–457.


JA also announced his move to the new American legation in letters to JQA of 13 May and to AA of the 14th, and on 16 June he wrote his wife that “the Air of the Hague, and the Return of warm Weather, tho later than was ever known, is of great Service to my Health” ( AFC , 4:322–325). The “blue Hills” refers to Braintree, Mass., JA's home.


Vol. 11:272–282.


The “other matter” upon which JA would wait for advice was presumably the proposed triple alliance between the United States, France, and the Netherlands (or quadruple if Spain were to be added). In his 5/16 Sept. response to this letter, below, Dana asked JA about the matter upon which he had gone against the advice of his French allies and assumed that it was regarding the presentation, on 9 Jan. 1782, of his demand that the States General respond to his 19 April 1781 memorial (vol. 12:175, 186–191). For JA's explanation of his meaning, see his letter to Dana of 10 Oct., below.


JA characterized John Dickinson as “a certain great Fortune and piddling Genius” in a letter to James Warren of 24 July 1775 that was captured by the British and printed in various American and English newspapers (vol. 3:89–93). JA referred to Dickinson's influence on the faction in the Continental Congress that opposed decisive action against the British in the wake of the battles of Lexington and Concord and Bunker Hill. For the effect of this indiscretion on JA, see note 6 to that letter.

To Wilhem & Jan Willink, Nicolaas & Jacob van Staphorst, and De la Lande & Fynje, 13 May 1782 JA Willink, Wilhem & Jan (business) Staphorst, Nicolaas & Jacob van (business) La Lande & Fynje, de (business) To Wilhem & Jan Willink, Nicolaas & Jacob van Staphorst, and De la Lande & Fynje, 13 May 1782 Adams, John Willink, Wilhem & Jan (business) Staphorst, Nicolaas & Jacob van (business) La Lande & Fynje, de (business)
To Wilhem & Jan Willink, Nicolaas & Jacob van Staphorst, and De la Lande & Fynje
The Hague May 13th. 1782 Gentlemen

I have recieved the Letter which You did me the honor to write me on the 11th, of this Month in which You agree to accept the Terms of four and one quarter per Cent for the Remedium and other Charges.

To this I answer, that I understand your meaning to be, to accept of 4 1/4 per Cent for recieving and paying the Money at first, for re-23cieving and paying off the annual Interest, and for finally recieving and paying off the Capital, for Brokerage, for the Remedium for the Undertakers and for all other Charges of the Loan. In this Sense I agree, in my Capacity as Agent for negotiating a Loan for the United States that You shall be allowed four and a Quarter per Cent.

As to the other Point, if You will open the Loan for three Millions only at first it would be perhaps better, but whether You open it for three or five, no other Loan in behalf of the United States shall be opened by me without your Consent, or at least without the Consent of two of the three Houses, until it is full, excepting one Case, which is that the Loan in your Hands should linger a long time without filling up, and I should obtain the Warranty of the States General, or of the States of Holland, or of the Regency of Amsterdam, for opening a new Loan, in which Case I should submit the Choice of an House to their H. Mightinesses, to their Noble and Grand Mightinesses, or to the Venerable Magistrates of the City, and in either of these Cases your three Houses will stand as fair to be employed as any other. You may therefore I think confidently affirm in your Prospectus that no other Loan will be opened, until this is full, by me.

You will please to inform Mr. Van Vlooten that I have agreed with You, and that I shall be very glad if he will forthwith engage in the Business with You upon such Terms as You and He shall agree on.

I have the honor to be with great Respect, Gentlemen, your most obedient & most H. Servant.

LbC in John Thaxter's hand (Adams Papers).