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Docno: ADMS-06-07-02-0188

Author: Lee, William
Recipient: Franklin, Benjamin
Recipient: Lee, Arthur
Recipient: Adams, John
Recipient: First Joint Commission at Paris
Date: 1778-12-15

William Lee to the Commissioners

[salute] Gentlemen

I had the Honour of writing to you the 9th instant and then mention'd the Congress that it is generally beleived will take place this Winter between Ministers from the Courts of Versailles and Petersburg to accommodate the difference between the Emperor and King of Prussia; and that I was inform'd G. Britain had prevail'd on the Court of Petersburg to endeavour at the same time to mediate a Peace between France and G. Britain, and from farther information I have reason to beleive that G. B. has certainly such a plan in agitation. Reflecting on this business it occurr'd to me that it wou'd be serviceable for America to have an Agent at this Congress, who might counteract the schemes of G. B. and if it was not in his power to bring Russia entirely over to our interests, her attachment to our Enemies might be renderd less forceable.
For this purpose I conceive in the present State of things, a Stranger might be able to render us more service, than an American, and therefore I have sounded a Gentleman on the Subject, who is now in the King of Prussias Service, and has been formerly employed by his Majesty in some negotiations with the Court of Petersburg. His reply is as follows, “Dans ce cas la il falloit m'employer sous Mains, ou publiquement. Si je dois le faire publiquement, il seroit necessaire de quitter le service du Roi. Si je puis le faire avec avantage je ne hesiterois pas; alors il falloit me marquer les conditions pour lesquelles je devois sacrifier mon Poste. Je crois de puvoir etre utile au Congrès dans ses differentes negociations avec les Cours du Nord, connoissant les affaires, le façon de trailer, et meme presque la plupart des Ministres. Si { 278 } je devois agir sous mains, je serai prêt d'observer l'interet des Americains à le Congrès qu'aura lieu pour terminer les differences entre les puissances de l'Europe. Aussi dans ce cas la il falloit des conditions acceptable. Je ne pourrai pas aller et demeurer qu'aux frais de Congres Americain et outre cela les Etats Unies pourroient me gratifier à mesure de mes services et de leurs effets. Si je travail sous main sans pouvoir venir au bout sans me declarer comme chargé d'affaire il me sera permis de me decharger dabord de ma Commission pour ne pas perdre mon tems et causer des depenses inutilement. Ou si on veut que je me déclare du moins clandestinement au Roi, comme Commissaire des Etats-Unis, et que cela ne pourroit pas subsister avec le service du Roi, il faudroit me garantir un dedommagement avec avantage pour pouvoir prendre ma demission et me sacrifier uniquement au Service du Congrès.”1
Thus you have the Gentlemans propositions and if you are of opinion with me, that the measure is in itself adviseable, I would beg leave to offer as my Idea, that he should be engaged to attend the Congress and act, as an unauthorized individual, under such instructions as you may think proper to give him with a reasonable allowance for his expences, and a promise that if his negotiation is succesful he will be fully recommended to Congress for an adequate reward. I shall not proceed farther in this business without your concurrence and therefore beg your answer as soon as is convenient.
That you may not be surprized at my not mentioning the Gentlemans Name, 'tis necessary to say, that it is at his desire, his Name is concealed until your determination is known; but I can assure you that he is a Gentleman of reputation, a Man of Literature and an author of approved Fame.2
I have the Honour to be with great Regard Gentlemen your most Obedient & most Hble Servt.
[signed] W: Lee
RC (PPAmP: Franklin Papers); docketed: “Hon. Wm. Lee. ans Jay 13. 1779.”
1. Translation: In this case I should be used either under cover or publicly. If I am to do the work publicly, I would have to leave the service of the King. If I can do so to advantage, I will not hesitate, in which case the reasons why I should give up my present position should be indicated. I think I could be very useful to [the American] Congress in its various negotiations with the Northern Courts, since I know their concerns, their manner of negotiating, and even most of their ministers. If I were to act secretly, I would be prepared to look after the interests of the Americans at the Congress which will meet to end the differences between the European powers. In this case, too, the conditions would have to be acceptable. I could not go and remain except at the expense of the American Congress and, in addition, the United States would have to compensate me proportionately for my services and their effects. If I work secretly, unable to iden• { 279 } tify myself as a chargé d'affaires, I should first be permitted to discharge my present commission in order that I not waste time and money. Or, if I was to declare myself, at least in a clandestine fashion, to the King as Commissioner of the United States, and this function could not coexist with being in the King's service, then I should be guaranteed advantageous compensation to enable me to tender my resignation and dedicate myself solely to the service of [the American] Congress.
2. The agent proposed by Lee remains unidentified.

Docno: ADMS-06-07-02-0189

Author: Schweighauser, John Daniel
Recipient: Franklin, Benjamin
Recipient: Lee, Arthur
Recipient: Adams, John
Recipient: First Joint Commission at Paris
Date: 1778-12-15

J. D. Schweighauser and Others to the Commissioners

[salute] Honbl. Gentlemen

We are favour'd with yours of the 5th. instant together with duplicates of your favours of the 11th and 27 Ultimo.1 The original of the first never came to hand, the last we received in due course of post.
We hold ourselves greatly obliged to you for the trouble you have taken, in endeavouring to obtain a sufficient Convoy, for the Vessels bound to America, for the whole Voyage.
We have been honoured with a letter from the Secretary of State for the Marine, informing us that he could not grant a Convoy farther than Cape-Finister, and as we did not look upon one, that far, and no farther, as an object worthy our attention, we had given up all thoughts of renewing our application, until we were honoured with yours of the 27th which has revived our hopes, and we flatter ourselves that it may be in your power to procure a Convoy to the westward of the western Islands2 if not for the whole Voyage.
In our former letter3 we mentioned that the Vessels would be in readiness by the end of the last month, many of them were ready to sail at that time, and have waited ever since for a favourable opportunity of geting out, and as your honours must be sensible that the trade cannot be carried on to the advantage of either Country, unless it is properly protected, we have not the smallest doubt, but that you will take every step in your power to procure a sufficient Convoy as soon as possible, by which means America will be supplied with a large quantity of goods, and many of us get safe to our desired homes.
We have the honour to be with great Esteem and Respect Honbl. Gentlemen Your most obedient and most humble Servants
[signed] J. Dl. Schweighauser
[signed] Danl. Blake
[signed] Cha. Ogilvie
[signed] Phil Rd. Fendall
[signed] John Lloyd
[signed] Josiah Darrell
[signed] J. Grubb
[signed] Matthew Mease
[signed] Jno. Gilbank
[signed] Robert Elliot
[signed] H. Thompson
{ 280 }
RC (PPAmP: Franklin Papers); docketed, not by JA : “from several Gentn. at Nantes Dec. 15. 78.”
1. The Commissioners' letter of 5 Dec. ( LbC , Adams Papers) merely transmitted their letters of 11 and 27 Nov., neither of which is printed, but see Schweighauser and Others to the Commissioners, 7 Nov., note 2; and Arthur Lee to Benjamin Franklin and JA , 28 Nov. (both above).
2. Presumably the Azores.
3. That of 7 Nov. (above).