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Docno: ADMS-06-10-02-0164

Author: Digges, Thomas
Author: Church, William Singleton
Recipient: Adams, John
Date: 1780-10-31

From Thomas Digges

[salute] Dr. Sir

We have not the least news from the Westward more than the publick papers will announce, but in hourly expectations of some from N York. Our grand fleet passd Plymo. the 27th. and these winds have probly put them on their intendd station for Cruizing. A small fleet has saild to N York—a frigate or so with 10 or a doz store Ships and Merchantmen, but no troops or any thing like any. Four Ships of the line are going soon to the Wt. Inds. They carry troops 3 to 5,000—and I guess these will be the last Expeditions or fleets in this year of our Lord 1780.1
We are all anxiety for the Speech, which some say is not to deliverd to day, but tomorrow.2 I Shall keep this letter open to a late hour to inclose it or give you any cue of the tendency of it that may be in my power to gather.
Yours of the 14th. got to hand after my letter of the 27th. was forwarded. I have in my possession one from Mr. S[ear]le to Mr. L[aurens] which I understand the substance of from the bearer of it Mr. J[o]nes,3 this shall find its way to Mr. L tho the letter may not. Please to mention this to Mr. S——le with my best wishes &c. &c. Any thing flat and smally folded will duly find its way. I only observe a caution of not doing Him any hurt by what is written. The day will come when relaxation from present severity will take place, therefore any discoverys may make confinement longer. Any hints can be securely communicated. He is made easier, and better in health by them. No one I beleive can tell upon what principle Mr. L was committed upon. Principle here, is not so much regarded as you immagine; It is generally the sudden impulse of the hour that lead our rulers in Error. I beleive they think themselves in an Error already about the Committment and ill treatment of that man, and probably they will act with more lenity soon, and sink into the other extreem. Appearances however speak that His Confinement will be a long one. The Law for suspending the Habeas Corpus to those who have embarkd and been beyond Sea, which was passd in 1777 and is I believe in force to Jany. 1. 1780, prevents Mr. L getting releasd by Bail, { 315 } | view and authorises his Enemys to keep him in confinement as long as they think fit. I will get you the Law, as well as the Arguments in Ebenezer Smith Platts case and send them You.4
It is impossible to describe why or wherefore these people act as they do; every thing seems to indicate they mean to play away the last stake with America, to exasperate Your Countrymen all in their power, and drive them to acts of retaliation. They seem to deliver themselves up intirely to the Government of their passions and their Caprice, and conduct themselves according to no system whatever. This harsh treatment of Mr. Laurens, together with Lord Cornwallis's military Executions and cool butchery of defenseless people in So Carolina, irrevocably seals the perpetual disunion between Great Britain and America. I cannot but lament that appearances speak Peace at a very great distance—Come when it will we may safely pronounce that it will be accompanyd with anguish and humiliation to the Savage Heart of “White Eyes,” that seems insatiable of human gore.
I am with the Highest Esteem Yr Obedient Servant
[signed] WSC
There was no Speech to day. But the jst of it is supposd for a Continuance of the War—that Cornwallis success shews what may be done by vigorous exertions—very Complimentary to that Genl.—assuring that the money which may be granted will be properly applyd &c. &c. &c.—
C. W. Cornwall chosen Speaker by a Majority of 31 votes5  
for Cornwall   234  
for Sr. Fletcher Norton   203  
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1. This paragraph is a summary of reports appearing in the London newspapers since Digges' letter of 27 Oct. (above).
2. George III opened Parliament on 1 Nov. ( Parliamentary Hist. , 21:808–810). The content and tone of his speech did not differ substantially from the preview provided by Digges in his postscript to this letter.
3. This was William Jones, a distinguished British lawyer and opponent of the war in America ( DNB ). From mid-September to mid-October, he and John Paradise had visited Benjamin Franklin at Paris (Archibald B. Shepperson, John Paradise and Lucy Ludwell of London and Williamsburg, Richmond, Va., 1942, p. 149–152).
4. The law to which Digges refers is 17 Geo. 3, c. 9, which suspended the right to a writ of habeas corpus with regard to all those charged with and arrested for treasonous activities in the American colonies. The act was adopted in Feb. 1777 and was originally intended to expire on 1 Jan. 1778. In Dec. 1777 it was extended for the duration of the war. Digges' reference to it being in force only to 1 Jan. 1780 was presumably an inadvertence. During the parliamentary debates over both the bill's original passage and its extension, the case of Ebenezer Smith Platt, a Savannah merchant, was cited by those opposing the suspension of habeas corpus ( Parliamentary Hist. , 19:3–53, 461–466, 560–562). For an ac• { 316 } count of Platt's ordeal, from his arrest in 1776 through his release in 1778, see his letter of 21 April 1778 to the Commissioners (vol. 6:44–46).
5. For the actions of Sir Fletcher Norton, the former Speaker of the House of Commons, that led the North ministry to replace him with Charles Wolfran Cornwall, see Thomas Digges' letter of 14 April, note 7 (above). Digges' figures, however, are wrong; Cornwall received 203 votes to Norton's 134, thus giving him a majority of 69 votes ( Parliamentary Hist. , 21:807).

Docno: ADMS-06-10-02-0165-0001

Author: Dumas, Charles William Frederic
Recipient: Adams, John
Date: 1780-11-01

From C. W. F. Dumas

[salute] Monsieur

Quoique j'aie eu l'honneur de vous écrire depuis la faveur de votre Lettre du 4e., je dois néanmoins me souvenir que je n'y ai proprement pas répondu. Je n'ai pu me procurer une Copie de la Dépêche de Petersbourg, parce que les Plenipotentiaires ont exigé qu'elle ne fût point communiquée.1 Mais elle porte en Substance 1º. une Convention proposée par l'Impératrice de Russie, où, aux 5 articles connus, entre les Cours du Nord, cette Princesse, dans 2 ou 3 articles de plus, sans vouloir proprement rien garantir à la République, lui assure néanmoins son secours au cas qu'elle soit attaquée en haine de la dite convention: 2º. que l'Envoyé d'Angleterre à Petersbourg a déclaré à l'Impératrice, que la Grande Bretagne respectera la navigation de la neutralité armée, pourvu que cette république ici en soit exclue: 3º. que l'Envoyé de Prusse les a assurés que le Roi son Maître accedera à la Neutralité armée: 4º. Un article séparé de la Convention, que lorsque la Neutralité armée aura pris toute sa consistence, elle pourra procurer la paix en offrant sa Médiation aux Puissances belligérantes.
Au reste, il n'y a pas encore de Congrès formé à Petersbourg; mais il n'est pas impossible qu'il s'y en forme un, lorsque les choses seront parvenues à une certaine maturité: et dans ce cas il seroit certainement nécessaire qu'il y eût, comme vous dites, un Ministre Américain, dès qu'il s'y agiroit d'une Pacification générale, c'est-à-dire, de l'ancien et du Nouveau monde. Mais, encore une fois, il n'y a pas encore de Congrès à Petersbourg, et jusqu'ici il n'en a pas même été question. Je vous ai seulement marqué, dans celle de mes Lettres qui a occasionné la vôtre, qu'il regne un concert (ou une intelligence) manifeste entre les Ministres étrangers (excepté celui d'Angleterre) et le Cabinet de Petersbourg, pour parvenir au grand but de l'Impératrice, qui est d'affranchir toutes les mers de la prétention de toute Puissance qui voudroit y dominer seule, et inquiéter la navigation des Neutres toutes les fois qu'elle seroit en guerre.
{ 317 }
J'apprendrai avec bien du plaisir, Monsieur, que vous jouissez d'une parfaite santé; et j'espere d'en être témoin oculaire, dès que l'Assemblée d'Hollande ici se sera séparée: ce qui vraisemblablement aura lieu dans peu de jours.
Au reste, vous aurez déjà appris la résolution prise par la Province d'Hollande d'accéder à cette Neutralité. Il s'agit que les 6 autres prennent la même résolution. Deux ou trois l'ont déjà fait. Mais il faut que les autres le fassent aussi, sans quoi rien ne pourra se conclure.2
Je suis, Monsieur, avec un grand respect, Votre très-humble & très-obéissant serviteur,
[signed] Dumas
Si vous savez quelque chose de l'état de Mr. Lawrens, depuis qu'il est enfermé à la Tour; je vous supplie de m'en faire part. Americanus sum, nec quidquam Americani a me alienum puto. Patior cum illis ita ut olim gavisurus cum iisdem. 3