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Docno: ADMS-06-09-02-0269-0003-0002-0002

Author: Chaumont, Jacques Donatien, Leray de
Recipient: Rayneval, Joseph Mathias Gérard de
Date: 1780-06-17
Enclosure: Leray de Chaumont to Joseph Mathias Gérard de Rayneval: A Translation
Account of a conversation that I had with Mr. Adams the day before yesterday.
I went to see Mr. Adams to inform him of the news from Cádiz,1 which fulminated against the American congress for having set the value of its paper dollars at the rate of forty for one dollar in specie. I observed to Mr. Adams that the commerce justified the complaint, especially since the French merchants, who have sold the merchandise at three times its original cost, have consequently suffered losses because the original cost makes up only an eighth of what is owed from North America because of transportation costs and the double risks of war and independence. I added that many merchants would be shaken by such a flouting of their engagements should the congress not reconsider its action of March by adding a declaration in favor of those European merchants who have glimpsed the good that will proceed from the bad.
Mr. Adams responded that the congress' action was both very wise and very just,2 that those who complained were the agents or spies of the English3 who would have the injustice of treating the Europeans differently from the Americans, who from the first have recognized that in the American commerce the French have less to complain about than the others because it reflects the most far-reaching advantages for France because without America, to whom France cannot have too much obligation, England would be too strong for the house of Bourbon, and that had America, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, Portugal, and Holland joined in a confederation against England the merchants who will go bankrupt would be enchanted to have the pretext of the revaluation of the paper money, that the congress had been forced into this revaluation by the refusal of the credit that they had requested from their European allies.4
I swear that this response has been strongly implored to me and that we ought to have full confidence that Mr. Adams expresses the American view.
The content of all or some notes that appeared on this page in the printed volume have been moved to the end of the preceding document.
RC and enclosure (Arch. Aff. Etr., Paris, Corr. Pol., E.-U., vol. 12); endorsed: “envoye la relation d'une conversation avec M. Adams du celui ci pretend [ . . . ] la france a beaucoup d'obligation [ . . . ] l'Amerique” and “M. de Chaumont.”
1. For the news from Cádiz, seeJohn Bondfield's letter of 6 June and JA's reply of the 10th (both above).
2. Compare this description of Congress' action with that in the next to last sentence of JA's first letter to Vergennes of 22 June (below).
3. The italicized passages, here and below, were underlined on the manuscript, but whether by Chaumont or someone else is unknown.
4. For JA's expansion on this theme, see his letters to Vergennes of 20 and 22 (second) June (both below).
Cite web page as: Founding Families: Digital Editions of the Papers of the Winthrops and the Adamses, ed.C. James Taylor. Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 2018.