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Docno: ADMS-06-10-02-0001-0001

Author: Adams, John
Recipient: Vergennes, Charles Gravier, Comte de
Date: 1780-07-17

To the Comte de Vergennes

[salute] Sir

In your Excellency's letter to me of the Twenty Fourth of February last,2 I was honored with your opinion in the following Words. Quant au plein pouvoir, que vous autorise à negocier un Traité de Commerce avec la Cour de Londres, Je pense qu'il sera prudent de n'en donner Communication a qui que se soit, et de prendre toutes les precautions possibles pour que le Ministere Anglois n'en ait pas une connoissance prematuré. Vous sentirez surement de vous même les motifs que me portent à vous conseiller cette precaution et il seroit superflu que je vous les exposasse.
I shoud have been very happy if your Excellency had hinted at the Reasons which were then in your Mind, because, after reflecting upon this subject, as maturely as I can, I am not able to collect any Reasons which appear to me sufficient for concealing the Nature of my Powers in their full extent, from the Court of London. On the contrary, many arguments have occurred to me, which seem to shew it to be both the policy of the United States, and my particular Duty to communicate them.
Your Excellency will recollect that my Commissions3 empower me to join with the Ministers of the belligerent Powers in making Peace; to make a Treaty of Commerce with the Ministers of his Britannick Majesty, and to represent the Congress, as their Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of London.4 It seems to me then inconsistent with the design and nature of my appointments to conceal them from the Court of London.
I think also that announcing my Powers to the Court of London, wou'd have a tendency to draw out from them, some proofs of their present designs, and it is always important to discover early the { 2 } Intentions of the Enemy, that the People may be prepared both with Councils and Forces to resist them if hostile.
The English Nation wou'd expect of the Ministers that some answer shou'd be given to me. If it shou'd be an insolent one, as there is too much Cause to expect, it will prepare the minds of the Americans, and of the other belligerent Powers, for what they are to expect; and it will alarm and arouse, if any thing can, the People of England. At this particular time when an Election approaches, it wou'd throw the Ministry into some Embarrassment; for the People of England sigh for Peace.
Another Consideration has weight with me. A great part of Europe, as well as the People of England are amused by the English Ministry, and their Emissaries, with Reports that there is some secret Treaty between France and the United States, by which the former have secured to themselves, exclusive priviledges in some branches of the American Commerce; which misrepresentations as they are at present an obstruction to Peace, wou'd be cleared up by the Communication of my Powers.5
There are at present many Persons of Consideration in England, who have long followed the Ministry in the War against America; who begin to see the impracticability of succeeding, and now vote for Peace, and will lay hold of every occurrence that favors its accomplishment.
At this moment, under the wild impression that the surrender of Charlestown has made, it might be improper to make the Communication; but upon the News arriving of Monsieur de Ternay's arrival, of Don Solano's, or both, or upon the receipt of some Intelligence which may take off a part of this impression, I submit it to your Excellency's Consideration, whether it wou'd not be proper for me to communicate my appointments to Lord George Germain. It seems to be most proper that it shou'd be done, so that the Nation may consider this before the Meeting of Parliament, and that those who are for Peace, may digest their plans accordingly.
Notwithstanding the suppression of the late Riots and the consequent temporary Relaxation of the Committee and Associations, the Nation is in a most critical situation. Those Disturbances were not simply the Effect of Fanaticism and Bigotry, but of deep and general discontent and distress among the People; and although Ministry may at present be confident they have suppressed them forever, they will surely find themselves mistaken, if they pursue this War. I know of no measure that will be more likely to encrease the opposition against { 3 } Administration than communicating my Powers. It will at least show all the World, that the Continuance of the War, and the consequent Ruin of England, is their own fault, not that of the Americans, who are ready to make Peace upon Terms honourable and advantageous to Great Britain.
I am the more confirmed in these opinions, by the Communication your Excellency made to me yesterday of the Message sent by the Court of London to the Court of Madrid.6 I am convinced in my own Mind, that that Message is insidious in the last degree, and that it is intended to answer two Ends only: first to spy out what they can of the political and military plans of Spain, secondly and principally, to amuse France, Spain, and America too, with false Ideas of pacific Inclinations, simply in order to slacken and enervate their preparations for the next Campaign. Sincere Intentions of making Peace upon any Terms which France or America can agree to, consistent with subsisting Treaties, I am as sure they have not, as I am of this Existence. Now, I think, there is no way of counteracting this insidious policy, so honourably and so effectually, as by a frank and decent Communication of my full Powers. This will necessitate them to come to an Explanation of their real Intentions concerning America; for there, Sir, lies the Obstacle to peace, all other questions wou'd be soon arranged if that was settled.
I hope your Excellency, will pardon the long letters I write you, because it is really a voluminous subject We have in Contemplation, and Mankind in general, are little less interested in it, than our particular Countries.7
I shall hope for the honor of your Excellency's Answer upon these Subjects, and remain with the greatest Respect and Attachment, Your Excellency's, Most obedient and Most humble Servant
[signed] John Adams
RC in Francis Dana's hand (PCC, No. 84, II, f. 435–439); endorsed on the first page: “M. de R.”; additional notation:” <No. 8.> No. 7.” Someone wrote numbers beside the 2d through the 10th paragraphs, keying them to eleven numbered points in Vergennes' reply of 25 July (below). For the presence of this letter in the PCC, see the Editorial Note, 13–29 July (above). LbC (Adams Papers).
1. This together with Vergennes' reply of 25 July (below), rebutting the points raised here, and JA's response of 26 July (below) to Vergennes' criticism constitute one of the most important exchanges of JA's diplomatic career. For a discussion of the issues raised by the two men, see the Editorial Note, 13–29 July (above).
2. Vol. 8:362–363, calendared; JA Diary and Autobiography, 4:251–252, English translation. For the full French text, see the recipient's copy (Adams Papers).
3. For JA's commissions and instructions, dated 29 Sept. and 16 Oct. 1779 respectively, see vol. 8:185, 203, 204, calendared; JA, Diary and Autobiography, 4:178–184.
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4. In the Letterbook the remainder of this paragraph reads: “<to all Intents and Purposes as fully, as Dr. Franklin, Mr. Deane, and Mr. Lee were at first authorized to represent Congress at the Court of Versailles, and as Dr. Franklin is now impowered to represent it.> It seems to me then <as> inconsistent with the design and nature of my appointments, to conceal <it> them from the Court of <St.James's> London, <(as it would have been, for those Gentlemen to have concealed theirs, from his Majesty.)>.”
5. The absence of any exclusive rights for France in the Treaty of Amity and Commerce is central to JA's appeal to British self-interest in the “Letters from a Distinguished American.” The tenth “Letter” declares that “there is no article in the treaty with France which gives her any exclusive privilege in trade, or that excludes Great Britain from any branch of American trade” (“Letters from a Distinguished American,” [ante 14–22 July], Nos. V and X, but see also the Editorial Note and Nos. III, IV, VII, and IX, above).
6. This was a report that negotiations between the Spanish government and the nominal representatives of the British government, Richard Cumberland and the Rev. Thomas Hussey, had stalled over the demand by Floridablanca for a definitive statement of the British position regarding its American colonies (to the President of Congress, 23 July, No. 99, below).
7. In the Letterbook this paragraph was written below the closing and marked for insertion at this point.

Docno: ADMS-06-10-02-0002

Author: Digges, Thomas
Author: Church, William Singleton
Recipient: Adams, John
Date: 1780-07-17

From Thomas Digges

[salute] Dr. Sir

Since my letter of the 12th. We have no arrivals from Ama., or any thing new but what will be mentiond below. I am anxious to know if my letter to you of the 8th or 7th1 of last month got to your hands. The Behaviour of the Bearer of it to Ostend, who has been some days idling about London gives me strong suspicion that He did not do with the letter what He promisd me. I am uneasy about Him having had proofs He is a most notorious lyar and not to be depended on, and I have wrote to P——sy about Him.2
There is a mail just now arrivd at the Post office brought by a Packet from Jamaica in 37 days. Just before the sailing of this packet (which was with a fleet of upwards of 200 Merchantmen bound to England under Escort of 3 Men of War, and which fleet the packet left safe after passing the Windward Passage) an English frigate arrivd at Jamaica with the flag of the Fort of St. Juan situated on a river of that name not far from Cape Gracios a Dios and in the quarter of Nicarauga. It seems the Jamaica Expedition which Saild in March last bent its course on a Buccaneering Expedition to that part of the Main, That they found no Opposition till they got before this fort some miles up the River and before which they were near three Weeks before its surrender; During this time, it is said, an offer of four Million Piasters was made to save the Fort and Town from Plunder and which was refusd for fear the Ransom would not be paid: (a Piaster a 3s4d Sterling each makes this sum 666,000£ Sterling, much more I think than the fee simple of that whole Settlement { 5 } could be worth. The fort afterwards capitulated about the 1st June or latter end of May. This is spoke of here in the most exalted terms—as a thing of infinitely more import than Omoa—nothing but joy expressd upon the occasion. Perhaps in a few hours it may be thought nothing of and of no national consequence. The same packet brings an account that the natives and Spaniards had supprisd and taken the English Post and settlement on the Black River in the Bay of Campeachy and that most of the English had fled to the Island of Rattan.3
Another Mail from Chas. Town arrivd at same time but no letters will be out till tomorrow; Genl. Clintons last Gazette Despatches are I think the 5 or 6 June and it is said this second packet saild with Gen. Prevost but a very few days after, so that the news by Her cannot be very material; all the City however will have it that No. Carolina has submitted to the terms proposd by Gen. Clinton and that Virga. would certainly accept the Same—there is no reasoning on this Torrent of nonsence So I give it you just as it is.
A Gentleman going hence immediately to Ostend with a fair Wind gives me hopes this will be put into the post Office there tomorrow morning which will be a day or two at least before our regular tuesdays mail sets out. I forward by same opportunity a letter from one of the two Gentlemen lately come from your quarters a letter to Mr. D—a. I am on all occasions—&ce. &ce.
[signed] W.S.C.
My friend D. H. told me a day or two ago He would write You a few lines.4 He is a very honest Man and means well and right for our cause.
RC (Adams Papers); addressed: “A Monsieur Monsr. Ferdinando Raymond San Negote. Chez Monsieur Hocherau, Libraire, Pont Neuf Paris”; endorsed by Francis Dana: “Mr: Diggs's Letter dated 17th. July 1780 Recd. Septr. 4th. 1780.”
1. This letter, carried by Capt. James Barnet, was dated 8 June (above).
2. Digges also wrote to Benjamin Franklin on the 17th (Digges, Letters, p. 243–245).
3. This paragraph is a digest of reports that would appear in the London newspapers of 18 July, see, for example, the London Courant. The expedition that captured Fort San Juan had been ordered by Gov. John Dalling of Jamaica. It went first to Cape Gracias á Dios at Nicaragua's northern border and then proceeded 200 miles south to the San Juan River at the southern border. The fort controlled the river's outlet into Lake Nicaragua and capitulated on 30 April. Like Omoa in Honduras, however, the ravages of disease made Fort San Juan impossible to hold for any extended period (Mackesy, War for America, p. 335–336). The second incident was the expulsion of the British from their post at the Black River at the northern end of the Mosquito Coast. The inhabitants escaped to the island of Roatán, which, like the Black River, was on the Gulf of Honduras rather than the Bay of Campeche.
4. See David Hartley's letter of 17 July (below).
Cite web page as: Founding Families: Digital Editions of the Papers of the Winthrops and the Adamses, ed.C. James Taylor. Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 2014.
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