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Docno: ADMS-06-11-02-0242

Author: Adams, John
Recipient: Franklin, Benjamin
Date: 1781-05-23

To Benjamin Franklin

[salute] Sir

I have the honour of your Letter of the 19th. with its Inclosures, and I thank your Excellency for the pains You have taken to communicate the News from America, which I think can scarcely be called bad, tho' General Green lost the Field. I had before recieved and published in the Amsterdam Gazette the same accounts. The Gazetters are so earnest after American News that I find it the shortest method of communicating the Newspapers to all.1
I have recieved from Congress, their Resolution of the third of January 1781, to draw Bills upon me in favour of Lee and Jones at six months sight for the full amount of the ballance due on the Contract made with them, for a Quantity of Cloathing for the Army. I have also a Letter from Mr. Gibson, of the Treasury Office of January 28th., which informs me that the amount of Jones and Lee's account is sixteen thousand, two hundred and forty four pounds one shilling sterling.2
I have just recieved from Gottenbourg the inclosed Letters, one to your Excellency and one to Mr. Jay.3 I recieved both unsealed with a direction to take Copies. I have put my own Seal upon that to your Excellency, and request the favour of You to put your's upon that to Mr. Jay, and to convey it in the safest manner. It contains matter of great Importance, which ought to be carefully concealed from every Eye but your's and Mr. Jays, for which reason I should be cautious of conveying it, even with the dispatches of the Spanish Ambassador, especially as there are intimations in Mr. Lovells Letter of too much Curiosity with regard to Mr. Jays' dispatches, and as Mr. Jay himself complains that his Letters opened. I hope this Instruction will remove all the Difficulties with Spain, whose Accession to the Treaty would be of great Service to the Reputation of our Cause in every part of Europe.
It seems to me of vast Importance to Us, to obtain an acknowledgment of our Independence from as many other Sovereigns as possible, before any Conferences for Peace shall be opened: because if that Event should take place first, and the Powers at War with Great { 329 } Britain, their Armies, Navies and People weary of the War and clamouring for Peace, there is no knowing what hard Conditions may be insisted on from Us, nor into what Embarrassments British Arts and Obstinacy may plunge Us.
By the tenth Article of the Treaty of Alliance, the contracting Parties agree to invite or admit other Powers who may have recieved Injuries from Great Britain to accede to that Treaty. If Russia, and the Northern Powers, or any of them, should be involved in the War in support of the Dutch, would it not be a proper Opportunity for the Execution of this Article? Or why would it not be proper, now to invite the Dutch?
I have the Honour to inclose a Memorial to their High Mightinesses. My Mission is now a Subject of deliberation among the Regencies of the several Cities and the Bodies of Nobles, who compose the Sovereignty of this Country. It is not probable that any determination will be had soon. They will probably confer with Russia and the Northern Powers about it first. Perhaps if those come into the War, nothing will be done, but in Concert with them. But if those do not come into the War, this Republick I think will readily accede to the Treaty of Alliance between France and America: for all Ideas of Peace with England are false and delusive. England will make Peace with the Dutch upon no other Condition than their joining her in the War against all her Enemies, which it is impossible for them to do even if their Inclinations were that Way, which they are not. The public Voice here is well decided against England.
I have the Honour to be much of your Excellencys Opinion respecting Duties. I mentioned Tobacco to shew what Duties America was able to bear. Whatever Sums a People are able to bear in Duties upon Exports or Imports upon the Luxuries, Conveniences or Necessaries of Life, they are undoubtedly able to raise by a dry Tax upon Polls and Estates, provided it is equally proportioned. Nay more, because the Expence of collecting and guarding against Frauds is saved.
Our Countrymen are getting right Notions of Revenue, and whenever these shall become general, I think there can be no difficulty in carrying on the War.
I have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient and most humble Servant.
[signed] John Adams
RC in John Thaxter's hand (PPAmP: Franklin Papers); endorsed: “J. Adams. May23. 1781.”
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1. JA refers to the Battle of Guilford Court House on 15 March. The source of his information may have been a newspaper enclosed in Joshua Johnson's letter of 8 May that has not been found, but to which JA replied on 24 May, below. The Pennsylvania Gazette of 4 April contained two letters from Gen. Nathanael Greene that were read in Congress on 31 March and ordered printed (JCC, 19:335; see also James Lovell to JA, 31 March, and note 1, above). The two letters were translated and printed in the Gazette de Leyde of 22 May as from a Philadelphia paper. The battle itself was ostensibly a victory for Cornwallis, for he defeated Greene's much larger American army and occupied the field at the battle's conclusion. He did so, however, at the cost of one quarter of his army, troops that could not be replaced. Unable to pursue Greene's force and convinced of the futility of further operations in the Carolinas, Cornwallis retreated to Wilmington, N.C., whence, on 25 April, he began his march into Virginia and ultimately to Yorktown (Mackesy, War for America, p. 406–407).
2. Neither the resolution of 3 Jan. nor the letter from John Gibson have been found. Early in 1780, Thomas Lee and John Coffin Jones, Boston merchants, contracted to provide clothing to the Continental Army. Because it was unable to pay for the goods provided, the Board of War initially refused their bill and referred it to Congress, which accepted it and ordered payment. On 3 Jan., by which time the account was over six months in arrears, Congress resolved to draw bills of exchange on JA in favor of Lee and Jones for the amount of the contract (JCC, 19:19–20).
3. The letters enclosed with Henry Greig's letter of 12 May, above, have not been identified. JA's comments in this paragraph make it likely that they were from James Lovell, but none of his letters written in March to JA, Franklin, and Jay seem to warrant JA's concerns about them. See, however, Lovell's letters to Franklin and Jay of 9 March (Franklin, Papers, 34:435–436; Smith, ed., Letters of Delegates, 17:44), and to JA of [ca. 15 March], above.

Docno: ADMS-06-11-02-0243-0001

Author: Dumas, Charles William Frederic
Recipient: Adams, John
Date: 1781-05-23

From C. W. F. Dumas

[salute] Monsieur

En réponse à l'honorée vôtre du 19e. je pourrai vous faire voir quand il vous plaira que l'expression Treaties with France and Spain est dans la Copie Angloise manuscrite que vous m'aviez remise ici, et qui a servi à l'Imprimer.1
J'ai assuré de vos complimens Mr. Manson2, en le priant de les garder pour lui: car, entre nous, il faut prendre garde que ces Messieurs ne nous exposent pas. Ils ne sont pas tous aussi discrets que Mr. Luzac, ni aussi prudents, ni même aussi sincerement nos amis: et ils font volontiers confidence au public de ce qui les flatte.
Voici ce que Mr. V——r m'a remis pour vous le faire tenir de sa part. La Traduction françoise en va paroître incessamment, et je ne manquerai pas de vous l'envoyer. Cette piece vous plaira par Sa force. Je vous informerai de ce qui s'ensuivra.3
Vous savez, Monsieur, la discretion avec laquelle j'attends depuis plus de cinq ans l'accomplissement des promesses du Congrès en consideration de mes fideles services, pour lesquels j'avois accepté avec joie les ordres positifs non sollicités. J'ai eu l'honneur de vous insinuer, dans quelles difficultés cruelles cette discrétion m'a enveloppé, et qui augmenteront Si je ne suis aidé. Vous savez la petite { 331 } allouance que je reçois de Paris; et vous êtes convenu avec moi que je devois avoir effectivement beaucoup de peine à vivre avec cela: aussi ne le puis-je; et il faut d'année en année que j'y mette du mien, et plus que du mien; ce qui me rend misérable jusque chez moi. Vous Savez aussi que le Congrès m'avoit destiné le Secrétariat de cette Légation sous Mr. Lawrens, avec 500 £. st. d'appointement. Vous me promites Monsieur, l'hiver dernier à Amsterdam, que si vous receviez une Commission pour cette Rep. comme celle de Mr. Lawrens, vous feriez à mon égard ce qu'eût fait Mr. Lawrens. Enfin vous m'avez dit ici, que sans le défaut de finances vous me feriez jouir des appointemens qui m'étoient destinés. Je crois avoir trouvé un moyen d'applanir cette difficulté, en vous proposant de me fournir 2 obligations de mille florins de l'Emprunt ouvert chez Mrs. De Neufs., et de me permettre de tirer Sur Mrs. De Neufville, pour votre compte, en un ou deux payemens, aux termes qu'il vous plaira de fixer dans le cours de cette année 1781 ce qui manqueroit de 300 £. st., déduction faite des 2000 florins en dites Obligations. De cette maniere, en continuant toujours de tirer sur Mr. Franklin ce que je Suis accoutumé d'en recevoir, je jouirai provisionnellement cette année des 500 £. St: qui m'étoient destinés; et vous ferez agréer au Congrès sans difficulté, ce qu'il avoit intention de faire, et ce que vous m'avez dit de pouvoir faire en vertu de vos pouvoirs. Ce dont votre grand crédit auprès de lui, mérité à tant de titres me confirme d'autant plus d'être assuré.
De cette maniere, l'intérêt des Obligations me mettra en état de payer celui d'une dette que j'ai été forcé de contracter dans le service des Etats unis, et pour lequel une petite Terre, la seule ressource de ma famille en cas de ma mort, est hypothéquée, et je pourrai en même temps mettre un peu plus d'aisance dans mon oeconomie ici. Je vous devrai mon repos si vous pouvez donner les mains à cet arrangement; et je ne doute pas que vous ne le puissiez. J'attens que vous ajouterez à cette faveur celle d'une prompte réponse, qui fera cesser les peines journalieres, qui me rendent, je vous le jure, la vie excessivement amere.
On m'assure que d'autres villes, et même des provinces, vont suivre l'exemple de la Remontrance d'Amsterdam. Je vous en donnerai connoissance à mesure.
Vous trouverez sur le feuillet ci joint la substance de ce que j'ai écrit à Manson, au sujet d'une sotte Traduction prétendue nouvelle et anterieure à la mienne qui a paru dans le Politique Hollandois.4
Je suis avec un très grand respect & l'attachement le plus sincere, Monsieur Votre très-humble & très obéissant Serviteur
[signed] Dumas
Cite web page as: Founding Families: Digital Editions of the Papers of the Winthrops and the Adamses, ed.C. James Taylor. Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 2018.