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Docno: ADMS-06-12-02-0078

Author: Adams, John
Recipient: Franklin, Benjamin
Date: 1781-12-08

To Benjamin Franklin

[salute] Sir

This morning were brought me four Bills of Exchange drawn on Mr. Laurens on the 6th. of July 1780 for 550 Guilders each. I have desired time to write to your Excellency, and obtained it. But as there is a large Number of these Bills not yet arrived, and as they come in sometimes by single Bills, and generally in small Numbers at a time, it will be giving your Excellency much Trouble as well me, to write a Letter and an Answer upon every such Occasion. I should therefore be glad to have the honor of your Excellency’s general directions concerning these Bills of the 6th. of July 1780 drawn upon Mr. Laurens. It is not probable that any other Bills will ever be drawn upon me, or any one else in this department, until there is a Treaty, and an House appointed to be drawn upon with Funds ready to pay, that is in other words (notwithstanding any thing I can see to the contrary) until Doomsday.
I have delivered your Excellency’s Letter to Mr. de Neufville, { 119 } which has alarmed him very much. He has been very importunate with me to write to your Excellency in his favor. I have advised him to write himself, and have given him no Encouragement. However I ought to say that by all I can learn he has not the commanding Interest in the Vessels: that the other Owners have it in their power to overrule him; and that it will not be his fault if your Excellency’s proposals are not complied with: and I presume that your sentiments of the Equity of with holding payment of the Bills were founded on the supposition, that Mr. de Neufville had the ruling Interest in the Concern. I am much afraid that protesting these Bills would be fatal to the House, and should be very loth that such a Misfortune should be attributed to an American Affair. The Bills being accepted must sooner or later be paid, and if protested for non-payment with large additions for Interest and Damages.2 As the Bills are accepted, an Action at Law might no doubt be supported against the Acceptor, unless he should avail himself of the Prerogative of a public Minister. This I cannot but think too delicate and sacred a thing to be made use of, but in very clear Cases, and therefore upon the whole I beg leave to submit to your Excellency my humble Advice, that the Bills should be paid, at the Expiration of their Term, at all Events.
I have offered Mr. de Neufville the Goods. He says in answer that he cannot take them: that he acted only on Commission: had delivered them on board of C Gillon according to his Contract, and cannot now take them again.
To sell the Goods here would be attended with a loss of forty per Cent—such is the stagnation of business here as I am informed by disinterested Persons, and that the same Goods could not be again purchased in France without another very great loss. But to send them from hence in slow Vessels would be little better than giving them to the Enemy.
Inclosed are Copies of Mr. de Neufville’s Letter to the other Owners, their Answer, and his Letter to me accompanying them.3

[salute] I have the honor to be4 Sir, your most obedient and most humble Servant

[signed] J. Adams
RC in John Thaxter’s hand (PPAmP:Franklin Papers); endorsed: “Adams Dec. 8. 1781.” LbC (Adams Papers).
1. The dateline is supplied from the endorsement and the Letterbook.
2. In the Letterbook the remainder of this paragraph was written following the closing and marked for insertion here.
3. The copies enclosed by JA with this letter are in the Franklin Papers at PPAmP (Cal. Franklin Papers, A.P.S. 4:325). Neither { 120 } the original documents sent to JA by Jean de Neufville & Fils nor the letter of this date in which they were enclosed has been found. See JA to Jean de Neufville & Fils, 10 Dec., below.
4. The remainder of the closing and the signature are in JA’s hand.

Docno: ADMS-06-12-02-0079-0001

Author: Dumas, Charles William Frederic
Recipient: Adams, John
Date: 1781-12-08

From C. W. F. Dumas

[salute] Monsieur

Votre Lettre à l’Ambr. du 25 Nov. lui est bien parvenue. Il n’étoit pas en ville à son arrivée; et voilà ce qui a causé quelque retard à sa réponse, de même les occupations qu’il a trouvées à l’occasion de la garantie de l’Emprunt résolue Lundi dernier unanimement. Au reste cette Négociation est déjà remplie; et nombre de Rentiers lambins se gratent la tête présentement, d’être venu trop tard pour en avoir. Ce matin j’ai demandé en grace à l’Ambassadeur pour 25000 fl. de ces effets en faveur d’un particulier qui m’en avoit prié: Mais Mr. l’Ambr. m’a assuré qu’il n’avoit plus une seule de ces Obligations à sa disposition, quand ce seroit pour moi-même.
Voici sa réponse à la vôtre susdite.1 Il partira la semaine prochaine, et m’a dit que ce voyage ne sera que de 15 jours.
Voici aussi deux Lettres, que j’ai retirées du Bureau: l’une venant d’Espagne; l’autre de Paris.2 La derniere avoit été envoyée du Bureau d’ici à Amsterdam, d’où on l’a renvoyée: ce qui est assez surprenant: car votre nom ne peut être inconnu au Bureau d’Amsterdam.
J’aurai l’honneur de vous écrire sous peu une autre Lettre Sur une idée qui me vient, mais qu’il faut que je pese encore avant de vous la proposer, afin de ne vous rien conseiller légerement.

[salute] Je suis toujours avec un vrai & grand respect Monsieur, Votre très-humble & très obéissant serviteur

[signed] Dumas

Docno: ADMS-06-12-02-0079-0002

Author: Dumas, Charles William Frederic
Recipient: Adams, John
Date: 1781-12-08

C. W. F. Dumas to John Adams: A Translation

[salute] Sir

Your letter of 25 November to the ambassador was received. Since he was not in town when it arrived, and since there was business at hand, regarding the loan guarantee unanimously resolved last Monday, his response to you has been delayed. Moreover, this negotiation is already finished, and many dawdling rentiers are scratching their heads now because they are too late to benefit from it. This morning I asked the ambassador for 25000 florins worth for a gentleman who asked, but Mr. Ambassador assured me he did not have a single bond at his disposal, even if it were for me.
{ 121 }
Here is his response to your aforementioned letter.1 He is leaving next week and told me that the trip will last only fifteen days.
Here are two more letters that I got from the post office. One is from Spain and the other from Paris.2 The second one had been sent from the post office here to Amsterdam, and from there, sent back. This is surprising because your name cannot be unknown at the Amsterdam post office.
I will write to you soon about an idea that I have, but first I must weigh it more carefully before consulting you so that I do not waste your time.

[salute] I am with true and great respect, sir, your very humble and very obedient servant

[signed] Dumas
1. From La Vauguyon, 7 Dec., above.
2. Neither of these letters has been identified.
Cite web page as: Founding Families: Digital Editions of the Papers of the Winthrops and the Adamses, ed.C. James Taylor. Boston: Massachusetts Historical Society, 2018.