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Docno: ADMS-06-12-02-0006

Author: Adams, John
Recipient: Jenings, Edmund
Date: 1781-10-09

To Edmund Jenings

[salute] Dear Sir

I was favoured, in due time with yours of 17. Septr,1 but have not been able to acknowledge it, till now.
The late Transaction you allude to is this, a new Commission for Peace. J. Adams, B. Franklin, H. Laurens, J. Jay, and T. Jefferson are the Ministers. I dont See that this is any Tryal at all of Spirit and Fortitude,—it is more honourable than before and, much more easy. I assure you it has been a great Comfort to me. The Measure is right, it is more respectfull to the Powers of Europe concerned, and more likely to give Satisfaction in America.
I have heard nothing of the Books. I am very much obliged to you, Sir, for the trouble you have taken in transcribing, from Mr Hollis’s Work, Some Passages, in which I have the Honour to be named.2
If Mr Hollis had not been exceedingly deceived in his Correspondent Dr Elliot I Should probably have enjoyed, the Honour, and Pleasure of Mr Hollis’s Correspondence. Elliot was a Tory, tho he deceived Hollis.
I had always a vast Esteem for Mr Hollis, and must have his Memoires. I have no Piece, of the Money, coined in N. England 1652, but will write immediately for one, and beg the favour of you, to ask Mr. Hollis’s Acceptance of it. If you will Send him yours in my name I will, give you two in Exchange for it, as Soon as I can get them from Boston.
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The Dissertation on the Cannon and Feudal Law, was indeed written by me, and printed in the Boston Gazette in July and August 1765, a few days before the Whirlwind arose which blew away, Stamp Masters and Stamp Papers.3
It is curious, because it is odd, and because of the Time, and as it is a document of History, it lets you into the true Principle of the American Revolution. In all other Points of View it is a Bagatelle. Mr Hollis’s Judgment of it, is no News to me. He wrote the Same Sentiments to Dr Elliot, in the time of it, who shewed them to me, tho he concealed them most carefully from every body else. He was an entire Tool of Hutchinson.

[salute] Yours,

[signed] J. Adams
1. Vol. 11: 485-490.
2. Francis Blackburne, Memoirs of Thomas Hollis, 2 vols., London, 1780.
3. The Stamp Act riots in Boston occurred on 14 and 26 Aug. 1765. The “Dissertation” was serialized in the Boston Gazette of 12 and 19 Aug., 30 Sept., and 21 Oct. 1765 (vol. 1:103).

Docno: ADMS-06-12-02-0007

Author: Adams, John
Recipient: Franklin, Benjamin
Date: 1781-10-10

To Benjamin Franklin

[salute] Sir

Your Favour of October 5. is just now brought to me, and I beg your Excellency to accept of my Thanks for your Congratulations on my Recovery, which is however, as yet but imperfect.
I am much Surprized to find, So many appearances, which seem to shew that certain neutral Powers of whose Sagacity and great Spirit, the World had formed an high opinion are amused and imposed upon by very trifling Artifices of the British Ministry. It is given out in the public Papers, that the British Court in their answer to the Mediating Courts, refuse to treat, with America, but as Sovereigns with Subjects. There is no difficulty in believing this to be true.1
I have heard nothing from Mr Dana, Since 31. July. On that day he wrote a Line from Berlin, to a Gentleman in this Town,2 supposing me absent. Since which I have no News of him.
I know nothing, of the Resolution to exchange Gen. Burgoine for Mr Laurens, but by common Report.
I doubt not that England might be Supplied with Masts from America, if america is not upon her Guard to prevent it. Masts may be cleared out, from America, to France, Spain Holland or elsewhere, and go to the W. I. Islands, Hallifax, Bermudas. But the { 9 } most probable Artifice would be to fall in with B. Cruisers by Agreement in certain Latitudes, and be taken. All this can be concerted easily( between a British Minister and an american Traiter. A fine Cargo of Masts from america was lately carried into Bermudas, and enabled those Islanders, immediately to fit for Sea a Number of Privateers. British Navigation publick and private in every Part of the World, is at this moment in great distress for Masts. If the Exportation from America is not wholly stopped, they will obtain Some supply from thence. It is much to be feared that other Countries as well as Holland have their Beilands, who, think, if they are not so frank as he was to declare, “Que si pour gagner dans le Commerce, il falloit passer par l’Enfer, il hazarderoit de bruler ses Voiles.”3
Inclosed is a List,4 of the Bills accepted by me, which, with those your Excellency has received before, is compleat up to this day. But I am Surprized at your Excellencys observation that it is a Demand you had no previous Knowledge of.
If your Excellency, will be so good as to look into the Letter which I had the Honour to write you, on the Eighth of May last, you will find these Words. “Yesterday were presented to me, fifty Bills of Exchange, for Eleven hundred Guilders each drawn by Congress upon me, on the 27 day of January 1781, at Six Months Sight. And on the Same day, other Bills from Number 37 to Number 76 inclusively drawn on me on the Same 27 day of January 1781, for Five hundred and fifty Guilders each, payable at Six months Sight were presented to me. I asked Time to write to your Excellency, to know, if those Bills and the others drawn at the Same time, can be discharged by you. If they cannot, it will be wrong to accept them, for I have no Prospect, at all of getting the Money here &c.”
And in my Letter to your Excellency of May 23. 1781, are these Words “I have received from Congress, their Resolution of 3 January 1781 to draw Bills upon me, in favour of Lee and Jones, at Six months Sight for the full Amount of the Ballance due on the Contract made with them, for a quantity of cloathing for the Army. I have also a Letter from Mr Gibson of the Treasury office of Jan. 28, which informs me, that the amount of Jones and Lees Account, is Sixteen Thousand, two hundred and forty four Pounds, one Shilling Sterling.” Both these Letters your Excellency received.5
In your Excellencys Letter to me of May 19. 1781,6 you Say “I was much Surprized to find by your Letter, that the Congress continue drawing So largely on you, without knowing whether you have any Funds in hand. You mention Numbers from 37 to 76 inclusively. { 10 } Perhaps all the preceeding Numbers and many Succeeding ones may Soon appear also.” After proceeding to Several other observations, and informing me of Mr Lovels Letter to you, and referring me to a Copy of a Letter from M. Le Cte de Vergennes to you &c you Add “But to the Point the Bills you mention must be paid, and if you accept them, I will answer your Drafts for that Purpose as they become due.”
All the Bills drawn, on the 27. of last January, excepting 3 or 4 have been presented to me and accepted, which make the greatest Part of the Sum, which your Excellency mentions as falling due in Nov. Decr. Jany. and Feb. next. The rest is made up of Bills drawn on Mr Laurens, on the 6th of July 1780. These I had your Excellencys previous Request to accept, and promise to discharge. It is remarkable that the Bills drawn on Mr Laurens on the 6 of July 1780 have arrived here very slowly, and a large Parcell of them by the Numbers are not yet arrived.
I have never accepted a Single Bill but upon your Excellencys express advice, and promise to discharge it: and I never shall accept one, untill your Excellency is informed of it, and expressly consents to pay it, unless I should have Funds elsewhere. Of this there is no Probability at all. My Loan Stands, where I told you at Paris. And there it infallibly will remain, a long time, at least untill it is decided, what Persons are to govern and what System is to prevail in this Country, which will not be for Months perhaps not for Years, and possibly Somewhat tragical may precede, which however God forbid.
It would be ridiculous in me to accept a Bill, before I knew your Intentions concerning it, when I certainly know, that I cannot obtain the Money any where but from you to pay it—nor even for my own subsistance.
I beg your Excellencys answer by the Post, whether I am to go on accepting the Remainder of the Bills drawn on Mr Laurens the 6 of July 1780, as they shall be presented to me, or whether I am to Stop my Hand. I cannot venture to accept another without explicit Information from your Excellency that there is no Misunderstanding, of the Business.

[salute] I have the Honour to be, very respectfully, Sir &c

1. See JA’s letter to Vergennes, 21 July, and note 3 (vol. 11:431–434).
2. Probably Jean de Neufville. In his letterbook copy Dana noted that he directed Neufville to forward a letter to the president of Congress written on 28 July at Berlin { 11 } (MHi:Dana Family Papers, Francis Dana Letterbook, 1780–1781).
3. JA presumably quotes Adm. Lodewijk van Bylandt, the commander of a Dutch naval force protecting a large merchant fleet that the British seized at the end of 1779 (vol. 9:75–76). Adams printed this letter in the Boston Patriot of 7 July 1810 and translated this passage as “if to make a profit by his commerce, it were necessary to pass through the infernal regions, he would take the risk of burning his sails.”
4. Not found.
5. See vol. 11:309–310, 328–330.
6. See vol. 11:324–327.
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