Papers of John Adams, volume 9

To Richard Henry Lee, 15 March 1780 JA Lee, Richard Henry


To Richard Henry Lee, 15 March 1780 Adams, John Lee, Richard Henry
To Richard Henry Lee
My Dear Sir Paris Hotel de Valois Ruë de Richelieu March 15th. 1780

After my last Embarkation for Europe, Your Letter of October the eighth1 was brought me on Board the French Frigate the Sensible, just upon the point of sailing, so that I had no Opportunity to answer it in America, and since my Arrival in Europe, I have gone through a Land Journey from Ferrol in Spain to Paris little short of four hundred Leagues, in the dead of Winter, in such Roads and such Accomodations, as almost wore me out. I have scarcely recruited myself enough to recollect what I had to do.

I thank you, Sir, for your kind Congratulations, on my Return to my Family and Country, both which I had the inexpressible Pleasure to find in perfect Health.

My Countrymen are so nice and so difficult to please, in the Choice of a Constitution of government, that I cannot say how long it will be, before they will adopt one, but of this I am very certain, that they have one at present which is very tolerable, and that the Temper and Genius of that People will not endure a bad one.

You recommend to me to continue in public Life, but You practise the Reverse yourself.2 How is this? are not the same Obligations upon You that You think lie upon me?

You and I have had Experience enough of public Life, to be very well convinced, that there are great Trials of our Patience, very little pleasure, and no Satisfaction at all to be found in it. I was never very fond of public Life, myself, but on the contrary, I avoided it with the utmost Care for many Years. But stepping into the midst of civil Dissentions, when I first entered on the Stage of Life, it was impossible for me to avoid having an Opinion of my own, and Principles like those of the Majority of my Countrymen, these Principles I frankly professed at all Times and in all Circumstances, however critical and dangerous, which involved me in an unavoidable Necessity, when the Times grew more tempestuous, to step on board the Ship and take my Fortune with the Crew. It is and will ever be the sweetest Reflection of my Life, that I did so. But I have ever been thoroughly sensible of the Instability, of a public Career, and I have ever endeavored to preserve my Mind prepared to return to my Rocks 50and Forrests, with Tranquility, which I am perfectly sure at present, that I could do, and with pleasure too. Yet I assure You I begin to fear that Habits will steal upon me, by length of Time, which I shall find it hard to break, when the Time shall come that I must retire. This time will certainly arrive with the first Moment that I cannot serve the public with Honor and some prospect of Advantage and I have many Reasons to suspect, that the Time is not very distant.

The Chevalier de la Luzerne, I have Reason to think from an agreeable Acquaintance with him in the Course of a Passage to America of forty seven days, from some Knowledge of him that I had before and after, is a candid and impartial Man, possessed of no Principles or Views inconsistent with his public Character, and very able to do service to his Country and ours. The same of Mr. Marbois. I lament most sincerely the unhappy Contests that preceeded his Arrival and wish that they may be extinguished, but I know too well the Circumstances to expect that they will.

As to my Negotiations, our Sons or Grandsons have a better Chance of completing them, than I have. There is, or at least there was a System of Policy and of military Operations, that if it had been pursued, might have given me something to do.3 It is not my fault, nor the fault of America that it was not.

The Fishery and the Navigation of the Missisippi are Points of such Importance, that your Grandson, when he makes the Peace, I hope will secure them. I am sure, he will omit nothing in his Power to do, for that purpose.

You will hear before You read this of a Series of good Fortune, which has happened to Rodney and his Fleet. But the Allies will be superior by Sea in America and the West Indies, so that We may hope, that the Tide will turn. England will remain without Allies altho' Denmark has done a foolish Thing by restoring to the English some Prizes sent into Norway by the Alliance. She seems to be sorry that She did it. It was upon the Principle, that they had not acknowledged our Independence, and that all Powers were their Enemies, with whom they had no Treaty, a Principle long since exploded, and of which they are at present ashamed.4 Ireland and England are following our Example: and if France and Spain act with sufficient Vigour in America and in the West Indies, all is ours, with an ordinary Success, otherwise all will be aback. But We must persevere. The more Success Great Britain has, the more Reason We have to dread her, and we ought to be more determined to hold out forever.

51 I am with great Esteem, Sir, your Friend & humble Servant, John Adams

RC in John Thaxter's hand (PPAmP;) endorsed: “John Adams 1780 March 15th,” and in another hand, “John Adams.”


Vol. 8:192–194.


Lee had resigned as a delegate to Congress in May 1779 and did not serve again in that capacity until 1784 ( DAB ).


Probably a reference to JA's long-standing plan for an increased French naval presence in American waters.


During the Bonhomme Richard expedition in 1779, the Alliance took the Betsy, Union, and Charming Polly. The prizes were sent to Bergen, Norway (then under Danish rule), where British pressure caused Denmark to return the vessels. Benjamin Franklin protested this action in a letter of 22 Dec. 1779 to the Danish foreign minister (PCC, No. 82, I, f. 211–217; Morison, John Paul Jones , p. 355– 356). In support of his position Franklin cited Emmerich de Vattel's The Law of Nations, or Principles of the Law of Nature, Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns to the effect that the “ancients” had not acknowledged any obligation to nations with whom they had no treaty, but that the progress of civilization had caused the abandonment of that principle (bk. II, chap. 1, sect. 20).

From Joseph Gardoqui & Sons, 15 March 1780 Gardoqui, Joseph & Sons (business) JA


From Joseph Gardoqui & Sons, 15 March 1780 Gardoqui, Joseph & Sons (business) Adams, John
From Joseph Gardoqui & Sons
Hond. Sir Bilbao 15th March 1780

We have in course been honour'd with your much esteemed 25th. Feby.1 and 1st Instant and are happy to hear of your safe arrivall at your place of residence where most sincerely wish you all manner of success.

We expected 'ere now to have had the pleasure of giving you some agreable intelligence from America, from whence we dayly expectt some arrivalls, but none has apear'd to this day, however you may depend that whenever it does, will immidiatly comunicate you, assur'd that we shall with great pleasure ship duplicates and triplicates of the same sort goods sent per Babson and the next oportunities that shou'd offer, taking proper care that the ships and Masters are such as may produce the desir'd effectt.

Give us leave to beg that you wou'd not mention the Commission any more, we are happy whenever we can be of service to any private person of your States, so that you may hereby infer our degree of satisfaction in rendering you any, so pray be free of comand.

We have postly advises from our brother at Madrid of Mr. Carmiachael's wellfare, and of their being dayly companions, and by yesterday's letter we find they soon expectt to see there his Excellency John Jay Esqr. whom they expect to meet at Aranjuez which is 7. leagues beyond Madrid, so that whatever intelligence we can gett of his Excellency's success, you may depend to be inform'd by those who 52beg leave to return you many thanks for mentioning to said Minister. We hope with you to see soon a solid and lasting treaty between your Constituents and this Kingdom being our heartiest wish. It is with pleasure we hear of the strong armament preparing at Brest, and if we have some further hints of their being bound to America, for which parts an equal armament is preparing at Cadiz, and there is some Accounts that mention that they are to be joyn'd, so that it must precisely produce some good effectt towards you, however we shou'd be glad to hear that they are bound that way. You may rest assur'd that no oportunity will be lost in comuniting your worthy Lady of your wellfare and everything else that may tend to make her eassy in your absence.

In expectation of your further comands we beg leave to add our respectts to the Honble. F. Dana Esqr. and the rest of the Gentlemen and subscrive with the greatest esteem, Hond. Sir Your most obt. & obliged Servts.

Joseph Gardoqui & Sons

RC (Adams Papers;) endorsed: “Gardodqui. 15. March ansd. May. 14.” For JA's reply of 14 May, see the letter of 13 May from Gardoqui & Sons, notes 1 and 4 (below).


Vol. 8:363–364.