Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 2
1629
1st. It wilbe a service to the church of great consequens by carringe the gospell into those parts to raise a bulworke against the kingdom of antichrist which the Jesuits labour to rere in all parts of the world:
2d. All other churches of Europe beinge brought to desolation it cannot be but that the like iudgement is comminge vpon vs and who knoweth but that god hath prepared this place for a refuge for many whome he meaneth to saue in the general distruction:
3d. The land groneth vnder her inhabitants soe that man the best of creatures is held more base then the earth they tread on:
4th. We are growen to that hight of intemperancy as noe mans estate 112will suffice him to keepe sayle with his equall and he that doeth not must Hue in contempt. Hence trades are carried soe deceiptfully and vnrightusly as yt is almost inpossible for a good vpright man to maynteyne his charge and to Hue comfortably in his profession:
5th. The fountaynes of learninge and religion are soe corrupted as besides the vnsupportable charge many chyldren of best witts and fayrest hopes are perverted corrupted and vtterly overthrowne by the multitude of evill examples and the licentious gover
6th. The earth is the lords garden and he hath given yt to the sonns of men to be tylled and improved why then should we stand strivinge here for places of habitation many men spending as much labour and cost to recover and keepe somtymes an acre or tow of land which would procure many acres of as good or better in an other place and in the meane tyme they suffer whole countryes vsefull and convenient for the vse of man to lye wast without inhabitant:
7th. What can be a better or more honorable worke then to helpe rayse and support a particuler church whyle yt is in the budd and infancy to ioyne our forces with such a company of faithfull people as by a tymly assistance may growe stronge and prosper and for want of yt may be put to great hazard yf not ruinated:
8th. Yf such as are knowen to be godly and Hue in welth heare shall forsake all this to ioyne themselues with this church and to runne their hazard yt wilbe an example of great vse boeth for the removinge of the scandall of wor
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ob: We haue feared a iudgement a longe tyme but yet we are saffe: 113yt were better to stay till yt come and either we may fly then or yf we be overtaken we may content our selues to suffer with such a church as this: | sol: | It is likly that this consideration made the church beyounde the seas viz: the Palatinate
ob: We haue here a plentyfull land of all thinges with peace: | sol: yet we must leaue all this abundance yf yt be taken from vs: 2. when we be in our graues yt wilbe all one to haue liue
ob: But we may perrish in the way or when we come there hunger or the sword there: how vncomfortable would yt be to see our wyfes chyldren and frends come to such mysery by our occasion: |
ob: but what warrant haue we to take the land which is and hath bine soe longe tyme possessed by other sonnes of Adam: | sol: | that which is commen to all is proper to none these savage people ramble over much land without title or property. 2°. ther is more then enough for them and vs: 3° god hath consumed these nations in a myraculouse plauge wherby a great parte of their country is left voyd without inhabitants: we shal com in with good leaue of these nations:
ob: But we should yet send younge ones and such as can be best spared and not of our best number and magistrates sol: yt is a great worke and therfore requyres skylfull artifficers to lay the foundation of a new buyldinge then to vphold and maynteyne yt alreddy buylt: yf great thinges be attempted by weake meanes instruments the effects wilbe aunswearable:
ob: We see that plantations that haue bine formerly made succeed ill: sol: the fruit of any probable designe is not to be decerned by the immediate successe yt may appeare in tyme that they were to good vse. 2° ther were great and fundamentall errors in the other which are likly to be avoyded in this for first their mayne end which was proposed was carnal and not religiouse they aymed cheefly at profitt and not the propagation of religion: secondly they vsed vnfitt instruments viz: a multitude of rude and misgoverned persons the very scumme of the land: 3. they did not establysh a right forme of gover
“in the same handwriting as the paper,” as is stated in 1 Proceedings, VIII. 430, but in a quite different hand, probably that of a government clerk:
Public Record Office, Colonial Papers, VI. 64, for the concluding page of which, see illustration; 1
Proceedings
, VIII. 428–430 (1865). The heading is in the manuscript. Discussed above as draft B.
1629-05
1. It wilbe a service to the Churche of great Consequence to carrye the Gospell into those partes of the world, and to rayse a bullwarke against the kingdom of Antichrist which the Jesuites labour to reare vp in all places of the worlde.
2. All other Churches of Europe are brought to desolation, and it cannot be, but the like Judgment is comminge vpon vs: and who knows, but that God hathe provided this place, to be a refuge for manye, whom he meanes to save out of the general destruction?
3. This lande growes wearye2 of her Inhabitantes, so as man which is the most pretious of all Creatures, is heere more vile and base, then the earthe they treade vpon: so as children neighbours and freindes (especi
4. We are growne to that height of Intemperance in all excesse of Ryot, as no mans estate all most will suffice to keepe sayle with his equalls: and he that fayles in it, must liue in scorn and contempt: hence it comes, that all
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5. The fountains of learninge and Relig
6. The whole earthe is the Lordes garden: and he hathe given it to the sons of men to be tilld and improved by them: why then should we stand striving heere for places of habitation etc. (many men spending as muche labor and cost to recover or keepe sometyme an Acre or 2 of lande, as would procure him many C
7. What can be a better worke and more honorable and worthy
8. If suche as are knowne to be godly and Hue in wealthe and prosperitye heere, shall forsake all this to ioine themselues to this Churche, and to runne the hazard with them of a harde and meane condition, it wilbe an example of great vse, bothe for removinge the schandale of worldly and sinister respectes to give more life to the Faithe of Godes people in their prayers for the plantation, and allso to incourage others to ioyne the more willingly in it.
Ob. 1: It wilbe a great wronge to our owne Churche and Countrye, to take awaye the good people, and we shall laye it the more open to the Judgment feared.
Ans. 1: the number wilbe nothing in respecte of those that are lefte: 2 many that liue to no vse heere, more then for their owne private familys, may be imployed to a more com
Ob. 2. We have feared a Judgment a longe tyme, but yet we are safe, soe it were better to staye till it come, and either we may flye then, or if we be overtaken in it we may well contente our selues to suffer with suche a Churche as ours is.
Ans. It is like that this consideration made the Churches beyonde the seas (as the Palhave are now plunged into.
Ob. 3. We have heere a fruitfull lande with peace and plenty of all thinges etc.
Ans. our superfluities excepted we are like to be followed with as good con
Ob. 4. But we may perishe by the waye or when we come there, either hanginge hunger or the sworde etc., and how vncomfortable it would be to see our wiues children and freindes come to suche misery by our occasion?
Ans. Suche ob
Ob. 5: But what warrant haue we to take that lande which is and hathe been of longe tyme possessed by other sonnes of Adam?
sol. That which is com
Ob. 6. we should yet send yonge ones, and suche as may best be spared, and not of our best min
sol. It is a greater worke and requires more skillfull artizans, to laye the foundation of a newe building, then to vphould or repaire one that is ready built: if great things be attempted by weake instrum
Ob. 7. We see those plantations, which have been formerly made, succeeded ill.
Ans. the fruit of any publ2: it may appeare in tyme, that they were all to good vse. 2: there were great and fundamentall errors in the other, which are like to be avoyded in this: for 1: their maine ende
W. 1. 55. Mentioned in
L. and L.
, I. 317–318. In the hand of John Winthrop. Without heading in the manuscript. Discussed above as draft C, for the concluding page of which, see illustration.
Winthrop first wrote “groanes,” then cancelled it and wrote “growes” above and “wearye” after it.
A line partly illegible, owing to wear at the fold.
The preceding sentence is written in the margin and marked to be inserted here.
A line partly illegible because of the fold.
“4. . . . natiues” is interlined.