Papers of the Winthrop Family, Volume 4
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My humbel Seruis presented to your worship Returning many thankes for all your louing respectes shewed mee and my felowes with mee. You may iustly chaling mee for ingratitude becaues I seeme to haue neglected to write to your worship but now hauing an oppertunity I thinke it my deuty to writ and there with allso to manefest the Caues of this delay. Retourning home in saftey from your Courte2 wee did acquint our gouerner and neighboueres with the pleasur of your honred Court and after som agitationes wee with diueres otheres of our naighboueres to the number of 29 consented vnto your Articeles and determined to send forth with for mr. Broadstreet and a mesenger was nominated and apointed to that end to accompaney mr. knowles3 to ipsich according to your order to haue conferred with the elderes of the Church and otheres, who weare prepared accordingly to set forwardes on the second day following but that which leted was A scruple springing vp in the Consience of our gouernor which as hee saied much troubled him soe that hee had no Rest in his spiret where upon th
But if pouer did com indeed from his magestey to settel gouerment heare in this Riuer and by vertew there of the peopel shall be comanded to be subiect to that Authoretey then how will the keepe theier Alegence with his magestey and there league with the masatewsetes their answer was that if the could not haue leaue to com of from theier voluntuarey Subiecktion to the masatewsetes to liue vnder the poure and Athoratey that his magestey shall be pleased to sett vp in the Riuer according to god which the hoped would not be denied, then the could sell their estates and houses heare and Remooue to the masatewsetes without breach of theire Alegence soe long as the obayed in doing or sufering and not breakeing Couenant or league made with the state of the masatewsetes. And here vpon it was Replyed that if his magestey doe indeed send and establish gouerment in thees northerne pertes or but in this whole Riuer, Comaunding all his faithfull and loyall se
W. 1. 187. For Starbuck, see Savage, Genealogical Dictionary, IV. 171–172; Alexander Starbuck, The History of Nantucket (Boston, 1924), 656–658. This letter from Starbuck putting on Underhill, then Governor of Dover, the blame for the failure at this time of the attempt to bring that town under Massachusetts jurisdiction brought forth in reply a letter from Governor Winthrop which, according to Winthrop, was the most important evidence used against Underhill in deposing him from his office early in 1640. Journal, I. 330D.J.W.
For Winthrop's account of the negotiations in September, 1639, between Massachusetts and the settlement at Dover, see Journal, I. 320–321D.J.W.
See Hanserd Knollys to John Winthrop, January 21, 1639/40 (pages 176–178, above).
Humphrey Hooke, alderman of Bristol, England.
The spelling in the original manuscript is “thing.”
1640-02-02
What construction you may put vpon my silence I dare not conclude, but I hope the best. The wise man saith that a Friend loueth at all tymes, and a Brother is borne for aduersitie. And heere is my griefe, That I cannot shew my selfe either, as I desire or as my dutie binds me. I cannot excuse my not writinge (though not out of neglect). But the present want of a more reall comfort and effectuall expression of my loue and seruice hath hither vnto hindred mee. If I should say I doe not truelie and heartilie reverence and loue you and yours, I should speake against my conscience. Yet I cannot satisfie my selfe with sole verball expressions But I desire to waite vppon God who will in his tyme bring all our matters to passe, and work all our works for vs. I haue had many sad thoughts about your affliccion yet I neuer doubted to this howre of your comfortable deliuerauce. I ame thinking sometimes that the Lord is trying of the whole Countrie, not but that hee knowes their hearts etc. well enough, but hee will haue you to see their loues and affeccions towards you also. Sometimes I ame thincking hee is vppon the tryall of your selfe in the exercise of your faith and patience and other graces: That as you haue bene beneficiall and helpfull all your tyme since you came over, in the course hee had sett you, now hee will make you beneficiall another way to vs all in an exemplarie cheerefull vndergoinge of Gods afflicting hand in wisdom and patience. Sir let mee say thus much to you. That your last Sicknes did you not good alone, but many others also obseruinge the lords guidinge of your spiritt vnder it: I blesse the Lord I can truely say I gayned by it, and I know some others that exprest the same. This I ame confident in The Lord is now louinge of you deerely. And his corrections are the corrections of a louing Father. If hee will haue you to be 189poore for a little while It is to make you richer hereafter, not onelie heere as hee did Job, but for euer heereafter to all eternitie. I ame glad to heere you are chierfull. Yet I know (in respect of others) your cares cannot be a few and I feare griefs also. The lord our good God in mercie cary you through them to his praise and your true comfort. I should haue bene with you at Court, but I ame aduised by all my friends to stay at home this tyme. And I was the more easilie drawen vnto it, because I finde my selfe worse and worse within this senight then I haue bene this moneth: my cold which I haue had this moneth or 5 weekes increasing vpon mee and head out of order vpon euery little wett in my feete. I therefore shall desire you good Sir to excuse mee to the Deputie and the rest of the Court, beseeching the lord in mercie to sitt amongest you and to guide you all in his feare to doe his will. To whose blessed protection I committ you, And rest Your Wor
Myne and my wiefs service remembred to Mrs. Wintrop your deare yoake-fellow and to Mr. Jo: Wintrop and his wiefe and our true loues to all yours with you. Your sisters Sonne2 is named after your name, John.
W. 2. 73; 4
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, VI. 116–138.
John, son of Emmanuel and Lucy Downing, who was baptized at Salem, March 1, 1639/40.